Postal rates of Far Eastern Republic

    Anyone who have info or can guide me to some literature/articles on the postal rates of this obscure area ?

    Thanks

    Charman

  • Wolffi 3. September 2024 um 18:44

    Hat den Titel des Themas von „Postal rates of Far Eastern Republik“ zu „Postal rates of Far Eastern Republic“ geändert.

    Hi Charman

    It looks as if the Republic of the Far East is a collection area that receives little attention. I have not found any books on this collecting area at the stock of the renowned literature dealers. I have been a member of ARGE Russland for about ten years, during this period of time there appeared no articles on the Republic of the Far East. Perhaps 241264hsv-fan has the opportunity to look through older volumes of the magazine.
    If I were you, I would contact ‘Rossica’ in the USA. Perhaps they can help you further

    Best regards

    DKKW

    There is at least some information on the rates in this article.

    http://www.stampnewsnow.com/PDF_Pages/FarEasternRepublic.pdf

    And there is some more in this issue of Rossica (cf. in particular the article starting on page 52) :

    Journal of the Rossica Society of Russian Philately

    Gruss,

    Jean Philippe

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    Einmal editiert, zuletzt von Jean Philippe (3. September 2024 um 22:26)

    I see that my attention is required. I don't have all the old magazines myself. However, I can't remember an article. A look at the older jounals didn't lead to any results.
    It is not my area of collecting, so I cannot comment on the postage rates.

    Suche Kaiserreich Russland - insbesondere Punkt-Nummernstempel und Postzensuren 1. Weltkrieg.

    Zitat von 241264hsv-fan

    I see that my attention is required. I don't have all the old magazines myself. However, I can't remember an article. A look at the older jounals didn't lead to any results.
    It is not my area of collecting, so I cannot comment on the postage rates.

    Thanks for chipping in :) ... This sounds like a very underappreciated subject. And frankly, I did not even know of it before recently.

    So you only know the postage rates of your collecting area ? A little secluded is it not ?

    I try to asssemble a general library, on worldwide postage rates (approaching it at least), postal history and stamps in general. Maybe it is because I am into marcophily and items I look for can, in principle, be from all of the world.

    Charman

    Since the essential rates are quoted in the links provided in my contribution #6, do you think there was a more elaborate rate structure ? Considering the circumstances at the time and the short lifespan of the Republic, that may well not have been the case.

    Gruss,

    Jean Philippe

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    Zitat von Jean Philippe

    There is at least some information on the rates in this article.

    http://www.stampnewsnow.com/PDF_Pages/FarEasternRepublic.pdf

    And there is some more in this issue of Rossica (cf. in particular the article starting on page 52) :

    https://original-ufdc.uflib.ufl.edu/UF00020235/00043

    Thank you very much. The first article gives some indication:

    "The postal rates were set at seven kopecks for domestic mail and at ten kopecks for foreign mails (100 kopecks equal 1 ruble)."

    It does not say when they start or end and weight class increments. But it may help analysing covers from auctions and piecing something together :-). The FER was shortlived, but still I wonder if the otherwise hefty inflation in the rest of the soviet area, did not affect FER. Was it a different currency (gold based) ???

    The other article (nice find) says this:

    I am not sufficiently strong in this area, but is this not before the establ. of the Far Eastern Republic ? If they carried over to 1920-22, they are different from those mentioned in the first article ?

    Hi Charman

    that's the only cover from the FER in my collection (it's not for sale).

    A registered letter from Wladiwostok to Copenhagen in Denmark. Probably 2nd or even 3rd weight. Two reg. labels (kyrill. and latin alphabet), typical for covers to foreign countries.

    Postmarked Wladiwostok 20.1.22 (jul. cal.). On the backside an unreadable red british registered postmark ?.FEB.22 and the danish arrival mark Kjøbenhavn 2.OMB. 1-3.22. 2.OMB. stands for second distribution.

    Best regards
    DKKW

    Zitat von DKKW

    Hi Charman

    that's the only cover from the FER in my collection (it's not for sale).

    A registered letter from Wladiwostok to Copenhagen in Denmark. Probably 2nd or even 3rd weight. Two reg. labels (kyrill. and latin alphabet), typical for covers to foreign countries.

    Postmarked Wladiwostok 20.1.22 (jul. cal.). On the backside an unreadable red british registered postmark ?.FEB.22 and the danish arrival mark Kjøbenhavn 2.OMB. 1-3.22. 2.OMB. stands for second distribution.

    Best regards
    DKKW

    That is a very nice and clean cover - thanks for sharing

    I have noticed that there usually are two reg labels on these covers. I suppose it is because of the language/letterings to make sure it is understood outside kyril area ? Do you know if both labels were added in Vladivostok or the top one at a border office or harbour office ?

    Can I have a scan of the reverse to se markings ? An english mark (London FS?) indicates that it went south through the indian ocean on british mail boats ?

    Zitat von DKKW

    Hi Charman

    that's the only cover from the FER in my collection (it's not for sale).

    A registered letter from Wladiwostok to Copenhagen in Denmark. Probably 2nd or even 3rd weight. Two reg. labels (kyrill. and latin alphabet), typical for covers to foreign countries.

    Postmarked Wladiwostok 20.1.22 (jul. cal.). On the backside an unreadable red british registered postmark ?.FEB.22 and the danish arrival mark Kjøbenhavn 2.OMB. 1-3.22. 2.OMB. stands for second distribution.

    Best regards
    DKKW

    I think they went away from Julian calendar in 1918, or ?

    The Soviets switched to the Gregorian calendar in 1918, but did that apply to the Far Eastern Republic ? I suppose so, but found no confirmation.

    As to the postal rates, I don't know anything beyond what is stated in the articles which I found through Google.

    Gruss,

    Jean Philippe

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    Zitat von Charman

    The FER was shortlived, but still I wonder if the otherwise hefty inflation in the rest of the soviet area, did not affect FER. Was it a different currency (gold based) ?

    Yes, the article states clearly that the currency was based on the gold ruble.

    Gruss,

    Jean Philippe

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    Thanks to all who chipped in.

    After some search on Google books, I managed to dig out this from a US Official Postal Guide july 1923 (supposedly the FER post was either still in some grey zone while being consumed by USSR, or the news had not yet reached the US in mid 1923, that the FER did no longer exist). I have a notion that these rates reflect a later set, while there were some earlier, lower rates before these came into effect.